Muhammad Ali Umer Ashraf Farooq Alvi, I commend you. Those are some brilliant pieces of analytical writing that you have presented us with here; I, for one, can definitely see you having a future in print journalism, even with such an unprintably long name (how do you not forget it?).
Considering the burden that you have to carry with your name had already hiked up my respect for you. And now, having read through your touching concern for these unfortunate, almost-not O level graduates, dis this respect has grown ten-fold. Your unnatural interest in Mr. Nadeem Ghani’s business ventures has not been ignored, either. I’m sure he appreciates your educated opinions (‘Acacia doesn’t offer sciences, ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG HOW DARE THEY NOT WAHHHH~*~… oh wait. They do.’) and helpful suggestions (‘please forgive my carefully-worded disrespect, it’s just my teenage hormones going haywire’).
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Time for me to share a fun little fact, though. I actually happened to see the transcripts of quite a few Nixor applicants who got redirected to Acacia. And- surprise, surprise- turns out these applicants aren’t really the scorned scholars of great misfortune you imagine them to be. Those transcripts happened to be pretty amazing in the number of D’s, E’s and U’s that they were able to accommodate. Not so many B’s or C’s. Now, I’m pretty sure you understand the importance of grades in one’s academic career. In fact, I know you do, from your heart-rending post about universities (with the absolutely bizarre non sequitur). Knowing that the aforementioned grades are not the best, do you really think that a kid with a transcript for the 10th and 11th grade that’s littered with these grades is expecting to get admission into an Ivy League? I’m guessing he (not she, because I am gender biased) is not. In your passionate argument for a cause that doesn’t seem like the most likely possibility, it appears you forgot about this crucial fact. And the fact is that with grades like that even if that kid is crazy optimistic about getting into Harvard… he’s very probably not going to. I’m sure Harvard is weeping tears of blood at this loss, right along with you.
You see, your O Level grades do matter and- despite what MyLifeIsBro may tell you- ECAs like your Xbox skillz aren’t fully as important. Even if you were actually unlucky in your Cambridge exams, you had every single test and exam administered by your school to ace. Chances were given. These students just weren’t able to step up to the plate at all. Bummer.
I’m not saying they’re necessarily at fault but even if they are, hurrah, hurrah- Acacia is here to help. Since they haven’t been able to “acquire the skills in O Levels necessary to successfully complete their A Levels”, Acacia’s motive, I believe, is to teach its students how to focus on their academics. Which seems kind of necessary at this point. And with that they probably still won’t get into Ivy League universities but there are still good ones out there they might have a chance with. And if they don’t? Atleast they’ve now got the skills to do well in any future academic career, even here in Pakistan.
But wait! Still not convinced? Well, at the very least I can guess that if you have enough faith in these kids to be able to get into ever-precious Ivy League then I’m sure you have enough faith in them to know better than to join Acacia if they think it’ll hinder their chances of admission. Seeing how you were unable to figure this out on your own I question your chances with Harvard, too.
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Ofcourse, that’s not all that bothered you. There’s the matter of the fees, too. Well, I don’t know when exactly Sir Nadeem became the iron-fisted dictatorial leader of every O Levels graduate in Karachi- I didn’t get the notification. I’m guessing he never did. So you really don’t need to worry yourself silly over how much Acacia costs because you know what? The kids going to Acacia and their parents happen to have free will. This is a free country run under democratic principles after all (LOL JK, just added that for my own amusement). Therefore, they’re choosing to pay those fees. The price is right for them. So what’s the big deal? Call it a niche market and get over it. No students or parents of students are being forced to join Acacia. They can just as easily choose to go to Southshore or Lyceum or L’ecole (wait- do we even consider L’ecole a school anymore?). And many of them actually did. Happy ending.
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I hope I’ve acted with sensitivity to your “humanity” that, unfortunately, Izna ignored. And yanno, anger is not pretty, but your blog definitely is. Specifically the glorified email post. Your use of colour is not only clever, but moving. I know that many of us who read it LOVED how relative the colours were to the words. Pink for “respectable man” and two shades (TWO!) of green for “Rs. 25,000?”. Accusatory red for “Really, sir?”. Beautiful. Are you considering a fine arts major? Maybe Literature, since you totally have the hang of symbolism?
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As for your hopes of propelling yourself to fame with the support of your blog- you definitely have. Look, a blog post featuring you! I hope you print it out. Shall I send it to you as a batch of flyers?
Possible latent sufferer of Attention Deficit Disorder and also random Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Has slight obsession with peoples' hands and how nice they must look drawn (not by her, of course). Loves whimsical socks. In ten years' time will most probably be a politician and/or a film director and/or homeless. Also prefers talking about herself in third-person. Too many Facebook status changes to be blamed? Maybe.
That was great.. LOL JK you totally OWNED HIM.
Now, for a more detail-y, less cooler reply:
HAHA omg I cant believe you caught on to the color symbolism. I TAKE LITERATURE TOO. (fml) also, I love how you made me think and ALSO laugh at the same time. How the baistee was laid on and built upon. Simply superb. I think I loved the Farooq wala the best, but this ones sexy too.
I do think Nixor charges waay too much, as does Acacia, but a sharks a shark, and its a love-hate thing, so yeah, his blog got a bit on my nerves too.
Anyway.
Good job.
K33p uP da wUnd3rFul wRk!
hahahaha Aziza. I can’t say I’m a HUGE fan of Nixor, at this point in time, but this was just 2 kewl
You just verbally raped the poor kid. I LOVE YOU. hahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahaha
I feel bad for MuhammadAliUmerAshrafFarooqAlvi man. Good job though!
haha Exceptional piece of modern journalism i must say =P
or in today’s words, EPIC OWNAGE =P but i doubt the poor kid even understands half of the things you wrote…as he probably didnt even get into Acacia =P
OWNED.
Bravo!
BRILLIANT
OWNED HIM
oh
you didn’t appreciate
the verse-like format
why didn’t you
it totally blew me away
that plus colour
too much man too much
her arguments are shit. its as good as this:
mohdaliumerfarooqalvi: “im holding a pen”
aziza: “no you are not”
mohdaliumerfarooqalvi: “i swear to god.. look”
aziza: “no.. i refuse”
as bad and simplified as this comparison was.. what im trying to say is.. acacia robs a not-so-great student of that blot of hope of making it somewhere. Its like saying: “Hello student with D’s and E’s.. you have absolutely NO HOPE of making it anywhere.. BUT! let us help you anyways.. it only costs all your parents’ life savings yayy”
and even IF parents are willing to pay and they have all the money in the world, they do hope that their son/daughter will make it somewhere because they’re pouring so much money into Acacia, whereas Acacia ‘mission’ is to rehabilitate a lost cause. They don’t say this.. but its pretty outright obvious.
Also, if she so firmly believes that academics are so important how do you think a student with D’s and E’s in O-levels will fair in AS and A2? No matter how much you try jamming knowledge into the poor chap you cant change the D’s and E’s into A’s overnight. Plus, with no extra-curriculars whatsoever, you also take away any chances of the guy getting into ‘Sarakchhap University of Alibagh’.. seriously.. extra curriculars are important.. and sometimes they do serve as a lifeline as far as admission into colleges is concerned.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH. too fucking good.
No see…what Ali’s trying to say is: Look I’m an idiot
Aziza: I will try to argue with you in a sane manner
Ali: I refuse to be blinded by your awesomeness
No, I’ll tell you what Ali Iqbal is trying to say.
He”s saying that “its pretty outright obvious” that “Acacia ‘mission’ is to rehabilitate a lost cause” but “[the parents] do hope that their son/daughter will make it somewhere” because… they are dumbasses and despite the apparent obvious nature of Acacia’s mission the parents just can’t seem to figure it out and thus still have hope?
Crystal clear, Ali Iqbal. The pen might be mightier than the sword but your intellect clearly falls short of both.
N is right.
Ali iqbal, um, retard?idiot? wrong? stupid? please help me choose one.
please read:
THE KID DOES NOT HAAAVVVE TO GO TO ACCACIA.
BUT I’D RATHER GO TO ACCACIA THAN FUCK MY LIFE UP IN LECOLE, AVICENNA OR SOMEOTHER SHIT SCHOOL.
FREE WILL BOYS.
like my dick.
Sweet. you have support from ‘ihavebigpenis’. I wish you all the best buddy.
you know the bigger the penis, the smarter the brain. but ofcourse, you wouldnt know that.
is it the brain or the penis?
i have question dear miss enlightighting aliumerowning aziza,
if we follow the study i just mentioned, above, is there a penis if no brain or vice versa?
it is very enlightening to know you think with your penis. Congratulations.
dear ali,
you seemed to be very confused.
i recommend, you stop commenting, because since aziza owned YOU and YOUR aluumerwhateverthefuckhisfullfuckingnameiswhichalsohappenstobeverylameandohiheaardhe’sshortasfuck, you have nothing else to say, so you being your insecure self, are trying to attack me and my penis. so sad.
please enjoy your penis less self.
bitches suck my dick.
you might think from your vagina. oops.
ali, i love you. please dont take it so seriously.
its all jokes.
im sure you have i big dick.
You should really thank Penis Boy, Ali Iqbal, because he has obviously distracted you enough to not have to reply to me with yet another brilliantly contradictory post.
dear friend,
im only restating what you said in simpler words whereas you sir, are very obsessed with your penis and like to assume you are the only one who posses one. Lol. I’m going to stop here. Good luck whacking the whale buddy,
Goodbye.
ihavebigpenis. verybig , is the best.
he’s right.
i’m wrong.
aziza’s right.
ali umer’s wrong and short.
I have come to the truth.
oh sorry, your penis friend aggravated me, i felt the need to address to him first. You fail to understand what I’m trying to say. Parents have not lost hope in their children with brilliant D’s and E’s, whereas Acacia indirectly implies that “your child is worthless, but yaknow, we’ll try”
okay, last comment. But I’ll get back to you on this promise
cheerio
Does Acacia really imply that? Cause you guys seem a LITTLE biased to me.
listen,
lets look at this realistically, why dont we..
ok so firstly, as aziza mentioned before a guy with Es and Ds and Us will not even dream of going to Ive leagues, which unlike most other university do happen to take a look at your O level grades, ive been doing my research, you seee.
second, when parents spend their hard earned money on paying for the CIE registration fees, let alone, Tuitions and school fee and other stuff too, if their child ends up with a transcript lacking As , Bs or even Cs. they become desperate. they want to educate their child, but with the growing amount of competetion, they have trouble giving them quality education.
now here’s accaica, yes, i do agree they have so strange things going on with no ECA and shit, but dude, here you have one of the best teachers in the city, trying to improve them and their grades. unlike other schools THEY ARE TRYING.
where else would you advice this student to go, please tell me. drop out?
metric?
anytthhingg?
i feel bad not mentioning my dick here. so here: DICK. or PENIS?
its only a LITTLE biased, ignorable really.
letsss movvee awwoon.
sorry
forgot my name
freeeee willlll
let’s play a game
imagine
you were a guy ( a GUY ) with shit grades
your parents, totally unaware of how different the local system of education is to that of cambridge’s.
DEAN (principal?) : I WILL SHOVE 11 HOURS OF STUDY PER SUBJECT PER WEEK AND HE WILL NO GET P.E. The bastard will study.
and nothing . SOUTHSHORE SUCKZZZ >=D
Parents: THAT’S what my son needs! IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE o.O
you: =.= ( FREE WILL )
your future? you tell me
A university in pakistan. Karachi University, NED, Sir Syed, FAST?
go ahead
oh FUCK we just forgot about the equivalence thing that goes on when you get apply to these places.
A’s down to B’s and C’s. B’s to C’s and D’s.
sounds so amazing right?
Honestly, if Acacia was an intermediate college (local board), it would make a lot more sense.
This awesome ‘change’ you guys want to bring about, it would be more easier to wrap your head around it.
Trying to stop the brain drain thing going on, now that is change
btw, I still don’t know this ‘change’ mentioned on the website.
PAISA
so the money
are you related to ayesha chinoy by any chance? BFFs?
No?
You guys would get along fine ^_^
so what if Acacia is making money? LET IT MAKE MONEY N000bxxx.
right?
I mean that’s how Pakistanis are beginning to sound like.
There’s no courtesy
You don’t understand WHY I do not like the idea of Acacia (as an A levels school, atleast)
and you mock me, go ahead
AND did I not mention Acacia offers science? For 60 fucking grand?
That’s four times more than ANY OTHER A LEVEL SCHOOL AROUND
Does it feel right?
Not to me
So, you came across some transcripts that were just lying around?
[ PRIVACY KI MAA KO LUND DO YAAR, WE'RE SO COOL 8)]
ANYHOOT
did you come across any students who got UNCONDITIONAL offers from Nixor before the O level results came out?
Did you know some of these UNCONDITIONAL offers were just dissolved?
UNCONDITIONAL
un·con·di·tion·al
adj.
Without conditions or limitations; absolute.
Unconditional has a new meaning?
Want me to name a student or two?
Affan Ahmed Khan AAB – 10th
UNCONDITIONAL OFFER
Bs Cs and Ds in 11th
redirected to Acacia
(I used a guys name cuz I respect your gender biased side and support feminism…LOL JK, go make me a sandwich)
And there are more names, don’t worry
I won’t get into the Ivy League arguement
Frankly, I’m not in a position to state what Harvard wants, BUT a blank resume, that’s not what they want.
School transcripts, yeah they matter a lot. What happens to that Affan kid?. And the…six other people I know with the same case.
Still, I have no idea what ivy leagues specifically look for, so I can’t argue much here
but,women are smarter, so you go ahead. Cuz i support feminism..LOL JK- oh shit I already did this
Well,this doesn’t even make sense. You really need to work on your argumentative skills,and of course,your general knowledge. I mean ECA’s are not as important? Dude,many people who have an excellent academic record, fails to get into the ivy league due to little or no presence of ECA’s on the resume. Besides,O’level grades aren’t even considered as a priority. They stand next to A’level grades. You aren’t implying anything but some pure b.s here to gain attention/imply school patriotism or whatsoever. If that’s the case.. Poor job indeed. All you tried to do is just grab some random shit from the orignal matter,and TRIED to counter them with no concrete comeback. Oh and honestly I had no idea that sharks are so fond of dicks. No wonder they have Ghani on the chair.
Faye: ver·bal
expressed in spoken words; oral rather than written: verbal communication; verbal agreement.
Rizwan: totally man, I didn’t get in Acacia
Ali man, no sandwich jokes. Not in good taste.
Hey hey now control your temper boys.
And make some sandwiches girls.
But you guy with fucked up name, you don’t make
Sense,
Ok bye now.
Mr A I can bet your balls, ali’s balls and well, your lives too, which seems to be fariqh.. None of you, and I include myself too, will have the oppertunity to study at an ivy league.
So let’s just drop that.
Respect, Azeez.
Ali umer I think you should accept defeat. I think they all know we have small dicks. And we lick each other balls. I also happen to have tits!
Yaaayyy dicks.
Mr A shut the fuck up, you don’t make sense. Fuck off man!
Redundancy,
I suppose that word is thrown around quite alot in Nixor, hell maybe that’s what they teach to the kids there.
Godthisblogissuchafuckingmessidontknowwheretostart.
First things first, Big dick, big penis, whatever the fuck you are, go fuck your… oh wait… Just, stay under the zipper for a bit. Lets wait for the boner to die down a bit, no ?
Now all the other baby sharks who are to taught to kiss Shark ass (I’m assuming sharks HAVE asses) and not see the other side of the picture, open your minds and be more constructive than to just write “pwned” or “boy got raped” or “the kid has a long fucking name”. Oh wait, you’re fucking sharks, I forget, you bite, not see.
Now, down to the real fucking problem, Ali Umer (long name goes here) wrote a teeny tiny blog asking the KELLOGG man the motives behind Acacia and blafuckbla. Some people got angry, big words were thrown, and BLA we have THISFUCKINGPOST.
I commend you Aziza, for the longestfuck piece of writing without conclusion that I have EVER read (and I’ve read erotic fiction too). Not only do you manage to side track the argument so mind bogging brilliantly, you go on to fuck well make another argument all together.
Fine, parents choose to send their kids to Nixor/Acacia, fine it’s his right to charge whatever fees he deems *profitable enough*. FINE he goes on to start transferring *not so good* kids to Acacia school for not intellectually talented… Shit, no ! :O
Where’d the free fucking will go ? :O
Suddenly kids are placed into Acacia, so instead of letting them choose whether to accept their idioticity, the school becomes noble enough to tell them itself ?
http://www.acacia.edu.pk/Acacia-FactSheet.pdf
Then there’s this factsheet and see where I see the discrepancies, I’m sure Nixor hasn’t dumbed you enough (yet) to not be able to read.
And exactly WHERE did you get the right to call other schools (read: Lecole) unsatisfactory to say the least ?
Geez Woman, if you can’t handle the heat against your school, don’t be going on about other school, eh ?
I’d say Lecole is better in someways than Acacia, they take in people with not so good grades, they don’t charge exorbitantly for an undifferentiated education. Oh yeah, they stole electricity, you’re better than that. You just charge more “for a better cause”.
I read the whole thing again, sorry, O level grades DO matter, no?
Too fucking late now, WHAT DO I DO?
Oh wait, there’s hope! I accept that I’m not studiously inclined, I accept that I need help, maybe a little stupid, I’ll go to Acacia.
Acacia- The school that charges more to take in your ward (the one with poor grades).
Good going.
But youknowwhat, I’ll reserve my judgement until the Acacia College produces and/or publishes (LOL) its results (cynical laugh).
Course Selection
Acacia focuses on Social Sciences and Humanities and courses include Economics, Math, Accounts, Business Studies, Math, English Literature, Sociology, Psychology, Law and Urdu. ****There are no science courses offered at Acacia***
Other than O levels, there are no subject specific prerequisites for enrolling in any of the subject cluster selections at Acacia. The Acacia Skills Assessment Test (ASAT) is a critical component in the admissions process; it also serves as a determinant for helping students identify their academic strengths and choose the appropriate course selection.
^website. zomg
Student Body
The student body at Acacia comprises of students whose academic potential has yet to be realized. Those who are a good fit for Acacia are students who feel that their O level grades are not a reflection of their academic limitations; rather they serve as a motivator to enroll in an academically focused program with top-tier instruction and intensive academic support which will enable them to improve.
The students at Acacia are those individuals who are motivated to invest concentrated attention to their A level studies to have a realistic chance to get into top tier universities.
UM. TOP TIER?
So Aziza, ivy league scene on for acacia?
I agree with A here. Scratch off the admittedly admirable vocabulary and you have an insecure blog post with very little to say. I love how you can inspire awe in those with an inferior repertoire of words. However whether they are just excitable little fellas or just plain fanatical patriots is still something I cannot say for sure. Because, frankly speaking, that was one of the most convoluted, inconclusive pieces I’ve read. From your blog it can be gathered that:
1. You are well-versed in sarcasm.
2. Ali Umer has a long name.
3. You are ignorant of the importance of ECAs. Even your XBox Skillz, if presented properly, can improve your chances of being admitted into a prestigious institutions.
4. You are not colour-blind.
5. Your conclusion of choice is a couple irrelevant sarcastic comments.
Unlike Ali, I do not regard Acacia as the source of all evil. What it’s doing is exploiting the ignorance of haggard, desperate parents who are not familiar with the system. I agree with you on the bit about free will. However, the exploitation here is extremely blatant:
“The students at Acacia are those individuals who are motivated to invest concentrated attention to their A level studies to have a realistic chance to get into top tier universities.” (Copied from the website)
Now who doesn’t want this for their children? But does anyone realize top tier universities will not be very interested in students from an institution specifically designed for second tier students? I don’t think so.
What I’m saying is that if parents are enrolling their children specifically for aforementioned admission into top universities, then I think they should reconsider. Their precious child is probably much better off doing Inter which does not need ‘equivalence’ and is also, surprise surprise, given preference by Pakistani universities. Of course, if the parents have loads of dough to roll out then full steam ahead, I say. They can probably also have their child admitted into the kinds of universities average students can get into by being able to pay.
I am surprised and I have to say, a bit disappointed. That goes not just for the author of this blog but also Ali. There is not point of discussions and debates if they don’t follow an objective setting. Both your posts are highly emotional, defensive/offensive and focused more on attacking one another than making a legitimate issue of the matter at hand.
You do not send a rhetorical letter to the head of an institution. If you have issues that need to be cleared up (and I’ll be the first one to support you on those), you list them in a calm and respectful manner so that you may actually get a response. Personally I think Nadeem Ghani’s reply was way more tolerant than it should have been. The fact the he even replied to such an e-mail – really, respect. Likewise, if you want to debunk someone’s argument or try and make people understand why it’s wrong, you attack the argument, not the person’s name. You leave out personal attacks and sarcasm, otherwise your own points hold little credibility. If you want to be taken seriously, learn to act seriously.
On a lot of levels this entire debate seems to be another Lyceum-Nixor issue but then again I may be wrong. I assume this only by judging the split between the opinion of commentators (on these blogs and on Facebook) – they’re quite coincidentally divided don’t you think? But I do also think that that’s not the case for everyone who holds an opinion on the issue, and now I’d like to add mine.
I used to be a student at the Lyceum (I’m specifying this only because I don’t want that to be held against me or my opinion later). I am now at university. I had good grades and occasionally okay grades and was surrounded by people who had all sorts of combinations of them as well. By okay I mean Bs and Cs and even Ds (I have also had Fs). Firstly – to invalidate the idea that you can’t get anywhere without grades – I had 2 Bs in my AS Levels but am in an extremely respected liberal arts college. A lot of people I studied with are in good universities too. Yes, abroad. In Australia, in UK, in Canada, in USA. And surprise surprise – while some of them may have had straight As or even decent Bs, all did not.
If good grades were a sure shot way of getting into a higher tier university then a lot of people who have straight As would be somewhere abroad on scholarships right now instead of universities within the country (after all, that’s the kind of places we’re talking about right?) Unfortunately, getting into university is more than often a combination of a lot of different factors. I’ve been through the application process and therefore I think I have sufficient experience to speak on it. Not just for the sake of the argument that’s revolving around Acacia but more importantly for the sake of the common mindset that thinks grades > anything else. I am not saying that it’s okay to be failing in college, no… my only point is that grades do not form the basis for everything, and that having bad grades does not mean you’re not going to get in anywhere.
The most important thing – in fact, is money. I’m not proud to say this but yes, the one thing that gives you the most options is money. If you can pay, you get in. A lot of the kids who don’t have impressive grades have the money to make up for the lack of scholarship which they do not get because of those grades. For the kids who don’t have the money or mind-blowingly awesome grades, all you need is a decent transcript and more to your personality than your academics. Coming on to the things that are actually under our control here – extra-curriculars are important. UK is one place that requires very good grades, but for America (AND I CAN SAY THIS BECAUSE I AM STUDYING THERE) JUST grades will get you nowhere. You need to have a well-rounded application. Not so good grades? Make up for it by showing some substantial work. As for local universities? Pass their entrance test. Really. That’s all there is to it.
That’s my rant on grades. People will disagree with me and say that grades are the most important thing and again I will say this – they are important but they are NOT the only thing. A school which promotes an idea that goes otherwise is one I would never enrol my kids in. Which is why I have a problem with Acacia. It’s working with a manifesto in mind which is in essence ultimately pointless.
Even IF grades were the basis of your entire future career, then to say that you can improve that entire future career by showing a year-long improvement is pretty bold. Secondly, I question the methods which will be working on such an improvement. You don’t help someone improve by putting them in a less competitive environment and overworking them and taking away sports/extra curriculars. You actually stunt their growth. This is an absolutely personal opinion and anyone is allowed to disagree with me but I do truly believe that unless you’re a well-rounded person, you’re really not very impressive. You don’t have to be brilliant at everything, but you have to have a certain amount of flexibility that will allow you to build on your capacity. Drilling in hours and hours of textbook material will not help that.
I appreciate what Nadeem Ghani wants to do and it does makes sense. If there are students who wish to concentrate on their academics specifically (because yes it’s not like grades do not count at all and not everyone can afford a university education), then they should be allowed to do so. They can pick to do so without being categorised into a lesser-level school and THIS IS IMPORTANT because the fact of the matter is that the same venture/idea could have been introduced without sprouting up another institution entirely. A college can accommodate more rigorous studying programs alongside for students who wish to pursue them without going to an extreme and isolating it from everything else. Not only that but Nixor has good teachers. Surely if they can give time elsewhere they can give in in their own school. But when instead of making a new institution stronger and building upon its maxim you open up yet another one that seems purely to be geared towards impressing parents, you come across as nothing but a bad, bad capitalist.
Sadia Khatri FTW.
Intellectual debates going no where. Hah its the plight of the Pakistani. See we have a problem, we cant mind our own business, I dont see what “BAD” Acacia is doing, i can only imagine it giving kids the opportunity to well, try and improve their grades. I have friends with Es and Ds and Us, poor chaps are giving their A levels for the Third, yes THIRD, time. they’re l’ecole, southshore, dha boys. Now if they had a school like Acacia, where they want to study now, isnt that good for them ? and if Nadeem sees it as a niche, where he can give education AND make money, should he not do it? whats so wrong with this ? its pure demand and supply.
Why do universities abroad charge anywhere from $20,000 to over $400,000 a YEAR and you dont blame them for overcharging ? They can charge that much because its pure demand and supply, because theres alot of people who want to go to ivies.
Now if Acacia is giving me teachers like Farooke, NG, Omair Masood..*i have to say they alone are worth paying 100,000rs a month to be taught by* and yeah if its giving me the opportunity to transfer and the ability to get better grades and sort out my life then i dont think its doing the world of hurt that people are implying.
I ask again, if you had Ds and Es and even Bs *because now only A graders get into Nixor, such bull right..? oh wait demand and supply! see what i did there?* anyway, if you had those grades, and you were getting the best teachers and one of the best A level Schools *trust me i went to nixor, it changed my life* then why wouldnt you pay top dollar if you were in a cornered position ?
Now its time to grow up a bit, stop whining about who’s doing what and start worrying about that uni acceptance that hasn’t come yet =’(
oh and @ miss Khatri
I respect your opinion on grades not being everything. Alot of my friends who studied more then 7-11 hours a day got horrible grades as compared to maybe me who well…had 60% attendance and never opened a book and was mostly doing..well nothing but passing out, got quite decent grades myself. And with strong extra-curriculars too so yeah Grades really arnt everything.
But imagine this, a kids got horrible O levels, *trust me, nowadays Bs and Cs are horrible….dont judge me, i had them too* and with a bad foundation, hes probably gonna get an even worse A level result, now if they chap doesnt study, he will get horrible grades again, therein lies Nadeem’s philosophy, He needs the grades. we wants those As because he believes, and im quite sure of it, that grades in our world allow the child to compete with others *which is quite clear within Nixor too, 5 Hour Sunday Math classes anyone?* He also believes that when studies are done, and you’re doing ECAs on your own, you’re truly an exceptional student yourself. In Nixor we studied like donkeys, yeah almost as much as Acacia. and we did the ECAs too, by ourselves and in school. I dont know why the Falcons or whatever hes calling them cant do the same…
I just wanted to help clear up some issues that people have been pulling out of the asses during the entire debate:
1. ECA: (from the website) While Acacia encourages focus on academic studies, it is our philosophy that a diversified exposure enhances learning and improves leadership skills. Although involvement in extra-curricular activities for Acacia students is limited to 3 hours a week during the academic year, the summer offers a variety of options for internships, small project initiatives, and mentoring programs. Opportunities for inter-house sports are available for Acacia students at the Nixor College campus. Student-led commercial and social development project initiatives are developed during the academic year and executed in the summer months. Public speaking, music, other workshops held at Nixor College can also be availed in the summer months.
So there is not ‘no’ ECA’s at all or NO sports at all. They are given but at limited quantities. Plus heres a point no one has considered: after school ends (around 3 or 4) why can’t a motivated student take PRIVATE ECAs? Why cant the student join an internship at a bank or at other businesses. Why cant he (or she) actively volunteer at a local charity organization (rotary club, sina etc). Why cant he play sports in a non school setting? (with the fees hes paying he can probably join a sports/leisure club as well) Why cant he start up his own business or follow his passions outside a school environment. I think this is what universities are looking for the most: people who have identified their passions and followed/take part in it no matter what. Kids who strive for what they want instead of receiving always wat they wanted without much effort is a real draw to universities. If a person wants to do something can easily do it, just depends on how much he wants to do it.
2. addressing sadia khatri’s last paragraph: Nixor has currently 850+ students in its already small campus. It actually has no room to expand (though there is current planning for future expansion). Nixor would love to accept as many kids (good person-kids only) as they can regardless of grades but quoting Rizwan eco supply and demand curves also apply in this case.
Mr.Rizwan,you are just.. incredible. So basically, what you are claiming here is that,Mr.Nadeem Ghani is trying to “sort out” people’s life by shoving “quality” education for a considerable amount of time. Good grades are the foundation of one’s career. Totally man. No wonder Bill Gates turned out to be such an unsuccessful man. But well, this shouldn’t be astonishing,after all he nearly flunked his high-schooling years,and not to forget,he was kicked out of uni. Oh wait,do we even know who is he? No,we don’t.
People with B’s and C’s in their O’level, flushed out their,otherwise,successful career. They don’t deserve another shot. If they really do want a shot,that must only be acceptable under some defined circumstances. Oh wait,we already have Acacia for that. Makes sense. Frames the criteria perfectly. Cool. Not only it makes the student feel special by making it the centre of excellence for “weak” students,but also moralizes them with great self-esteem. Ofcourse,not to underestimate the great psychological impact on the student,which will definitely give a boost to one’s confidence. I totally second your pov man!
If Acacia’s objective really is to sort people’s life out,it should rather have been an intermediate board(since “poor O’level performance means,the student would prolly get an even worse A’level result”)producing the maximum out of minimum,without sidelining social life.
And frankly, your address to Khatri still remains an inconclusive mystery.
BRILLIANT!! hahaha…i loved the last part abt the colours
…good of u to come right out and say all
A, see you miss the point entirely. Nadeems offering something that he believes him, albeit i might not support him, im just rationalizing it, i might not agree with it, frankly im not a writer so please forgive me for my contradictions, anyway what im saying is if hes Offering Quality education, without any ECA, then whats the problem ? 75-80% of Nixor Kids didnt have any ECAs, over 60% of the kids who did have ECAs had amazing O levels and got horrible A level results, this isnt me throwing numbers out there, i was there for it, i saw it happen to kids.
Look man i think that you’re scrutinizing the wrong guy here, i mean even i flunked the 7th grade =/ i sorted out my life just a few days before my O levels and did ok. Acacia offers good education, and if you’re good enough, you can go to Nixor. Even Nixor kids arnt allowed to do ECAs if they dont have the grades.
oh and it wasnt an Adress per-say, i just said that she was right, but frankly speaking, alot of people who had very strong ECAs and got bad grades are currently in shit programs and alot of people with strong grades and no ECAs are sitting in places like UBC doing engineering. Yeah ECAs count sure, but grades count more in most cases.
Ill tell you my story. I had Us in my transcripts in my O levels. and well i dont know how but i got 2 As 6 Bs and 1C, i was satisfied, but the world was not, i was just average, so i went to Nixor, a school with no reputation and nothing to offer, frankly at that time i didnt care for teachers cause well i never took tuitions and didnt know who was who, anyway i went to Nixor. In my AS, i got A B B, i had ECAs and they made me drop them because my grades werent upto par, so i enrolled seperately into one of the schools Music programs “small time 1-2 hours a day max” and i was in the remedial class too so basically my day was from 8-4 and then my own choice of ECAs within some of the entities. In my A2s i got A A B, “i hate you econ!” while getting these, i was banned from ALL ECAs at Nixor due to..well…Nadeem didnt like me…so i pursued my music, i did my own internships and i had to take accl courses so id go home at 5…so 9-5 everyday except sundays.
So the point is, I was an average student, didnt get strong O levels, got into a school with no reputation, came out with a Good A level result, and strong ECAs which i pursued myself, so im sayin, why cant others do the same ? if they wanna sort their lives. Acacia gives them the chance. What else do you want =/?
Blah please spare the spelling mistakes, its late in shanghai and ive had a tiring day!
nobody deleted my post…not cedric’s either
its my awesome invisibility cloak….and aziza is under here too, that’s why she can’t be seen B)
okay haha funny conversations i like i like….being a former student of nixor i yhink that if you guys believe that nixor is such a great college u should not reply to such blogs and secondly i personally believe that Nadeem ghani is very helpful but they are actually charging too high!!
FYI who the hell is ihavebigpenis i want to meet this moron!! what kind of a name is that hahha i think u shud keep your penis to urself and not showoff haha idiot!!
1.umm, from whatever im gathering here… people really like to write long essays that make no sense.
2.to the guys who says that all sharks are ass kissers or whatever.. dude .. fuck the term sharks. noone sucks balls so stop having erotic dreams about shark sex and ghanis.. like ..seriously.
3. even though i think acacia is like the stupidest idea ever, she wrote a fantastic piece full of subliminal satire and valid points. what people don’t understand is, the whole point of this is to say.. listen, its not a forced choice, so why the fuck do you even care, and why are you wasting 45 minutes of your time to write stuff with random gay fonts. i liked the points of aliumerilikeballssinghs article .. but this was straight up ownage
4.and mr i like dicks or whatever.. i know who you are
.. like always and hahaha theyre getting so emo about your posts
5. Aziza. RESPECT
.. you be chillin
oh yes.. i forgot to mention.. i like pie .. very much. Pie will save the world and create world peace. if it doesnt hey.. its better than democracy
More like a self-proclaimed ownage. Because honestly and with all due objectivity,I don’t see that happening anywhere. Oh wait I do. Aziza’s a saviour. Must appreciate the awesome support from the junkies you are surrounded by, who are either obsessed with penis,or with Hermoine Granger’s pussy. That kind of support.. It’s not easy to get,or is it?
You indeed have a predictable, favourable future in journalism. Oh and how can one ignore your outrighteous analytical skills. Totally amazing man. Next time,try focusing more on making a relevant point rather than flooding the thread with illogical analysis. That’s just my two cents.
Your sole purpose of this piece of bullshit was to diss,and not actually to make a point. Fail attempt.
This is quite chill.
Has Aziza disappeared ?
I love how nixor people all stick up for their *brothel* and try pretending to be neutral at the same time.
Azeeza, marry me ?
Yous sex kitten, I’ll call you crookshanks.
And you can Cho my Chang
This is ever to beautifully written Aziza. I’m so proud of you. Every point you’ve made has been fantastic and those commenting negatively are merely jealous of your superior intelligence, so fuck them
You inspire me with everything you write. Keep on rocking, babe.
Much love.
whoever this A is… go read the new blog she posted. you thick fucks just get too emotional about getting your little feelings hurt by some sarcasm (which was totally hilarious just btw) and couldnt get the points she made. they ACTUALLY make sense.
amazing job at dissing the poor kid
but the arguement…I think the the antiacacia bitches have better points.
try stand up comedy…
everybody laughs
but no one should take you seriously
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Can’t touch me. Dear Hormones.
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